This Day 2 panel featured Alex Chucri, CEO and Founder of Pravati Capital, Vincent Montalto, Partner at DLA Piper, and Ronald Schutz, Partner at Robins Kaplan. The panel was moderated by Kathryn Boyd, Partner at Hecht Partners.
Discussion topics ranged from operationalizing firm decisions involving funding, to the best ways to structure a funding partnership or alliance.
Not everyone knows about the various structures of relationships between law firms and funders, so the panel addressed the various models in play, including those that involve some form of recourse funding. Pravati has a debt structure in play, which founder Alex Chucri thinks makes the most sense for his firm’s structure. He believes in recourse to the firm, to the management team, and personal guarantees. This makes investors more comfortable, knowing that Pravati has skin in the game.
Panelists also discussed having to monitor the capital structures, and being cautious about capital allocation. A lot of funders raise $100MM and need to put that capital to work, and so they finance claims the wouldn’t otherwise take on. This is concerning. “When you put capital into a deal, it changes the whole landscape of a deal,” according to Vincent Montalto. His firm has implemented internal structures to monitor capital expenditure and management.
The panel also delved into some of the risks of partnering with funders, including whether funders will withdraw their funding – how and why would they do this? Where is funder money coming from – there are all types of investment structures out there, law firms have to be aware of those, so they can better understand the risk to the funder, which presents a downstream risk to them. These are things that the average lawyer in a law firm doesn’t appreciate, but it’s very important to know if the funder has the capital on hand, is it subject to capital calls, etc.
One final point on the tax implications of recourse funding: recourse funding can be clawed back, and so its treated as a loan and so it’s not taxed. Recently there was a legal standing that if the funding structure is non-recourse, that is treated as income, which means it is taxes. Often, there are a lot of emotions about getting a deal done, so they overlook the tax implications, and there is a real danger there.