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An LFJ Conversation with Guy Nielson and Stuart Hills of RiverFleet

By John Freund |

An LFJ Conversation with Guy Nielson and Stuart Hills of RiverFleet

Guy Nielson is a litigation lawyer with over 25 years’ experience of private practice and in-house counsel litigation and contentious regulatory experience. For over 7 years, he was Global Joint Head of Litigation and Regulatory Enforcement at HSBC Holdings plc with responsibility for managing the Group’s global exposure to material litigation, regulatory enforcement, and investigations, across the UK, Europe, North America, Latin America, the Middle East, and Asia Pacific.
Stuart Hills is a finance lawyer with over 25 years’ experience in legal private practice. He was a partner for over 12 years for three major law firms, specialising in private and public acquisition finance, project finance and restructurings. His wealth of experience offers clients unique perspectives on the financing and structuring of a broad range of legal finance solutions.
Below is our LFJ Conversation with Guy and Stuart:
With your extensive experience in private practice and in-house counsel, what motivated you to found RiverFleet, and what is your vision for the company’s future in the legal finance market?
For the last couple of years, we have been looking into the legal finance industry. It is an exciting market, nascent markets often are, but we have seen it come under increasing attack from various parties.
The industry needs to come together to deal with these threats whilst at the same time advocating for a market regulatory structure that is going to allow for the growth of a world leading litigation finance industry, second to none.
The legal finance market is not without its challenges. It is not the easiest market to analyse. Data is not always forthcoming. As a result, it is not easy for interested investors to enter the market. However, there are investors who are most certainly interested in joining that market, but they need help in doing so.
Our work over the last couple of years also led us to the view that the industry may well be at an inflection point. We believe it is perfectly possible that there will be some funder consolidation. We believe that funds will get increasingly sophisticated in the way they manage their balance sheets. The variety of insurance products has multiplied and, although there have been one or two challenges, we expect that trend to continue.
So we are seeing an industry that is potentially on the edge of massive change. Change brings challenges and it also brings opportunities. With our many years of experience in litigation, finance and investment, we felt that we could offer help and support to all stakeholders in the legal finance market to help navigate that change.
We have aspirations to make a real difference for clients in helping them achieve their goals, and to show thought leadership in a fast-evolving market to help clients navigate some choppy waters.
2. RiverFleet specializes in the global Legal Finance market. What are the key trends you’re observing in this market right now?
Political and regulatory scrutiny
The legal finance industry is currently under political and regulatory scrutiny in particular in the UK and the US, which could have significant ramifications for how funders operate in those markets.
The Civil Justice Council has recently published its final report in respect of its review of litigation funding in the UK, making 58 recommendations for a regulatory overhaul. The Tillis proposal is for the US litigation finance sector to face a substantial tax hike on litigation finance profits.
At the heart of the debate is an ethical consideration of the industry’s role in promoting access to justice. Whether in the UK, the industry can really be trusted to provide fair and proportionate outcomes for consumers and what level of regulation is required to best support the market and to protect those that use it. Whether in the US, the preferential tax rates typically reserved for long-term investment income are justified, or whether litigation finance inflates settlement values and prolongs litigation timelines.
We believe we need to dispel any notion that litigation funding is a dirty answer to an access to justice problem and win the argument that what the industry has to offer is a blessing.
We have to win the argument that the legal finance industry offers broader benefits in respect of the financial opportunities and risk solutions it offers to investors, corporates, law firms, and insolvency practitioners to name but a few, and the positive impact it has on the prosperity and growth of the economy.
Secondary transactions
Duration risk continues to be a major issue for funds and their investors. Case investments do not always stick to a simple predictable timeline. Appeals can take time, sometimes a long time, sometimes longer than the fund term we would all ideally want.
Secondary transactions are a key component in offering an option for funds faced with duration risk concerns.
We need to continue to develop a secondary trading market that works for all stakeholders.
Insurance market evolution
The insurance market now offers a multitude of bespoke contingency risk solutions for the legal finance industry, including;
· After the Event Insurance
· Security for costs
· Own fees cover
· Contingency fee insurance
· Cross undertakings in damages
· Judgment enforcement
· Arbitration award default insurance
We would like to think that as the market continues to evolve, the synergy between insurance and legal finance will drive further sophistication and reshaping of litigation funding into a forever more accessible and mainstream financial tool.
We recognise that not all products have been successful, and we recognise that for some the relationship between the insurance industry and the legal finance industry may at times be strained. However, we remain of the view that the adoption of insurance has the potential to significantly reshape the legal finance landscape. Primarily it enhances risk management optionality, meaning that a funder can better shape the risk profile of a transaction that best suits its investor base.
Working together, the insurance industry and the legal finance industry will continue to drive product innovation, providing bespoke solutions to specific events standing in the way of a transaction.
Increased sophistication and innovation
We recognise that this is a broad heading but across the industry we are seeing an exciting increase in the use of legal finance and innovation in the way that funds are being managed.
The legal finance market has experienced significant growth and transformation as businesses and law firms increasingly recognise its value in managing litigation costs and risks and unlocking the value of hidden litigation assets.
By way of an example, we have seen an increase in patent monetisation investments, where funders have worked with companies holding patents to devise creative solutions to improve the value of patent portfolios of claims, negotiate licences with patent users to generate income streams for patent holders, and pursue litigation funding strategies against patent users who are unwilling to enter into licensing agreements.
From a corporate balance sheet perspective, there’s been an increased recognition that legal finance preserves liquidity and unlocks value from legal assets. It enhances financial ratios and supports the efficient allocation of capital. By keeping litigation costs off the balance sheet, it avoids depressing earnings. With damages awards treated as exceptional items (which do not increase earnings), even winning litigation does not enhance a corporate’s set of accounts. Litigation funding of such actions enables businesses to maintain stronger financial positions and focus strategically on their core growth and competitiveness.
We also believe that litigation funds will become increasingly active in the management of their own balance sheets (if they are not doing so already), which is why matters such as secondary transactions, co-investment partners, securitisation and other risk sharing mechanisms will become increasingly common.
RiverFleet’s website mentions expertise in litigation, finance and structuring, and investment and portfolio management. Can you provide an example of how these three areas intersect to provide unique solutions for your clients?
Sometimes these three skills do not intersect, sometimes they do, but they are three essential skills needed in this industry.
The core asset class is litigation. Having specialist litigation underwriting skills in assessing the legal merits of cases, likelihood of settlement, time duration to trial, and enforceability issues make for a good start. PACCAR is also a telling reminder of the importance of understanding the jurisdiction risk posed by legal and regulatory frameworks surrounding the enforceability of litigation funding agreements. Different jurisdictions also take radically different approaches to issues such as disclosure requirements of funding arrangements and conflicts of interest to name but two.
Litigation may be the asset class, but all good deals need more than an understanding of the asset class to be successful. How best to structure a deal given the wide variety of transaction structures available, choosing the most efficient jurisdiction from a regulatory and tax perspective, and negotiating the key financial and commercial aspects make the world of difference.
How to assess and identify the best-in-class funders with proven track records requires investment management expertise and a deep understanding of effective portfolio and risk management. How to assess investment returns, different risks and rewards associated with portfolio type (for example consumer v commercial sectors, equity v debt investments etc.) and different approaches to managing tail risk and liquidity are all essential tools.
So these three skill sets do not always interact, but they are all essential for investors, funders, law firms and claimants alike. Having them under one roof is rare.

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An LFJ Conversation with Chris Janish, CEO, Legal-Bay Lawsuit Funding

Chris Janish, CEO of Legal-Bay, has spent two decades in pre-settlement funding, guiding Legal-Bay from a pure broker model to a hybrid structure and, most recently, to a fully direct funder operating off its own balance sheet.

Below is our LFJ Conversation with Chris Janish:

You've been in pre-settlement funding for 20 years, longer than most people in this space. How has the consumer legal funding industry changed from when you started to where it is today, and what's been the biggest shift you didn't see coming?

I think the biggest change is that documents and files move so much faster now with technology. Years ago we would have to fax major legal and medical files over fax and it was just maddening. Contracts are signed via electronic services too. Technology has made it easier to be efficient and scale. I see an industry that is only in its second quarter century of life — still much growth to go. I think products will get even more creative and advantageous for both plaintiffs and lawyers to advance cases with more liquidity and flexibility. The biggest thing I see coming is major consolidation — there is tremendous capital coming into the business who love the yields and want more credit lending capacity. Larger companies who are having a hard time scaling will start to acquire or "roll up" smaller companies.

Legal Bay started as a broker, evolved into a hybrid broker/funder model, and is now moving to fund entirely on your own balance sheet. Walk us through that evolution: what drove each transition, and what does going fully direct mean for the plaintiffs you serve?

I love this question, because it really takes us into what Legal-Bay is all about. Which is we were built on customer service. I've run the entire gamut in industry. In 2006 I started as an investor looking at this model, which was similar to my experience in running a hedge fund on Wall Street with similar convertible features. Then in 2010 I came on as a marketing consultant, driving leads and developing processing for Legal-Bay to be packaged for funding evaluation. By 2011, I decided to buy the Legal-Bay assets and became an owner in a business that had no money to invest directly in cases, but I was able to forge a partnership with a Canadian bank who had more flexibility than US banks at the time. (For the early part of this business it was very hard to get institutional capital due to restrictions and general uncertainty of the collateral.) Not having the capital, the only way to retain a lead was to ensure them that we would provide them the best customer service out there and work their cases until exhaustion. Legal-Bay made a name for themselves and the brand early on.

By 2018 we had made investments and partnerships in 2 startup funds, guided by my knowledge, that saw total AUM over $100MM. During those times we focused on origination and intake and let our partners work on capital raising. So, not having all our own capital made us part broker, part funder — hence why I said hybrid. All through it, we maintained our identity — and still do to this day — that when you call Legal-Bay you will always get a live person. Ultimately in 2023 we decided, after 5 years of a successful joint venture, to sell out of our profit share and create a liquidity event for Legal-Bay that gave us enough capital to go on our own and have a full end-to-end process right in our office from intake to funding to servicing, while still never losing our key identity.

You're looking to raise $25 million to fuel this next phase. What does that capital allow Legal Bay to do that it couldn't do before, and what are institutional investors looking for when they evaluate a consumer legal funding platform in 2026?

We have outgrown our capital needs and are looking to double our AUM in the next 2-3 years. The only way to grow in this business is you need to be putting out more money than what is coming back. You always want to have good portfolio turnover to show you are booking profits and picking the right cases, but in order to scale and grow, your originations need to be higher than your inflows coming back. That's what the capital is going to allow us to do — aggressively market in all 3 revenue channels we have and build core attorney relationships at the right pricing. And you guessed it: customer service.

Institutional investors are looking to evaluate every single last detail of your operation. We were lucky to have partners in the past that we basically outsourced this to, but I learned a lot through that process when I would pitch in with policy and procedures. So, we have a team now that is fully prepared with a full-scale data room that gives any investor a full understanding of any part of our business with a point and click.

New York just enacted the Consumer Litigation Funding Act, Kansas passed its own version, and more states are moving toward regulation. As someone who's operated through every phase of this market, do you see regulation as a competitive advantage for established players like Legal Bay, or does it create new headaches?

This is a double-edged sword and you hit on a chord that many of the smaller or medium-sized companies are going through. I'll take you back to when I started in this business and a new investor asked me, "what keeps you up at night?" And I said "regulation" — we had no idea which way the wind was going to blow. Litigation funding was a new frontier. Now, regulation is totally providing credibility to the industry, and the only thing that keeps me up at night is making sure our compliance team is up to speed on each and every state's compliance requirements. It takes a lot of resources and can create those headaches at times, but states are now giving us a privilege to service their consumers, and it is our job to ensure we are doing everything perfectly. Being a part of ARC and seeing what Eric Schuller has done for consumer funding throughout the country — going state to state in passing advantageous regulations — has been very inspiring. I am excited about building off of this in even more states in the future, despite the obstacles.

I do have one thing I would like to see, and that is getting a federal contract or guideline for litigation funding. With the nationalization of technology, it really makes more sense that there is one standard federal contract that works for all. That would remove a lot of those headaches.

Looking ahead, where do you see the biggest growth opportunities in consumer legal funding over the next three to five years, and how is Legal Bay positioning itself to compete against both the large institutional funders moving downstream and the smaller shops still brokering deals?

As the US population grows, more lawsuits are coming into the system and the backlog of cases each year grows. So the market breadth is growing, and that trend will continue. Additionally, I see a huge market in commercial funding for small to medium-sized deals — that is a market that is greatly underserved and something that Legal-Bay is working on specifically to develop that product further. Also, with the advent of better technology — AI, smart phones, and medical science — cases are much easier to be made based on strong liability and sciences. So it is becoming harder for defense teams to fight clear and convincing evidence or proof. Legal-Bay has prided itself on investigating emerging litigations in mass torts and being the first funder in, and we see this as a leg up for us in competing against the best in the future as well.

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An LFJ Conversation with John Lopes, Head of Specialty Legal Banking, First Horizon

By John Freund |

John Lopes is a market-leading bank executive and recognized authority in financial solutions for the plaintiff-side legal industry. As Senior Managing Director and Head of Specialized Legal Banking at First Horizon Bank, he leads a national platform focused on delivering capital, deposit, and technology solutions to contingency-based law firms, mass tort practices, claims administrators, and Qualified Settlement Funds (QSFs).

John began his career over 20 years ago advising AM Law firms, building a strong foundation in traditional legal banking and developing deep expertise in the operational and financial dynamics of large defense-side practices. He later held leadership roles at institutions including Citibank, Wells Fargo, and Western Alliance Bank, where he managed significant portfolios, built high-performing teams, and executed strategic growth initiatives across the legal vertical.

Over a decade ago, John identified a critical gap in the market and shifted his focus to the plaintiff side of the bar—where firms face unique challenges related to contingent revenue, cash flow volatility, and complex settlement structures. Since then, he has become a trusted advisor to many of the nation's leading plaintiff law firms and ecosystem partners, structuring sophisticated credit facilities, supporting billions of dollars in settlement flows, and delivering innovative banking solutions across the full lifecycle of litigation.

John is known for his ability to bridge capital, technology, and legal strategy—partnering with law firms, claims administrators, and litigation finance providers to drive growth, enhance liquidity, and create operational efficiency at scale. Through his leadership, he continues to position First Horizon as a premier banking partner to the plaintiff bar, bringing institutional-grade capabilities to a rapidly evolving segment of the legal industry.

He holds a background in financial markets from Yale University and has continued to build on that foundation through executive education with the Yale School of Management.

Below is our LFJ Conversation with John Lopes:

What gaps in the settlement and mass tort landscape led you to build a dedicated Settlement Services platform?

Historically, most banks approached settlement accounts as transactional escrow relationships rather than as a specialized vertical requiring tailored infrastructure. As mass tort and class action settlements have grown in size and complexity, that model became insufficient.

We saw several structural gaps:

  • Lack of dedicated infrastructure for high-volume sub-accounting and audit transparency
  • Limited understanding of QSF governance, fiduciary responsibilities, and multi-party oversight
  • Manual disbursement processes that created inefficiencies and risk
  • Inflexible credit solutions for contingency firms managing large case inventories

We built our Specialty Legal Banking group to address those gaps holistically — combining dedicated settlement banking, digital sub-accounting, modern disbursement capabilities, and tailored financing solutions under one coordinated platform.

Rather than treating settlements as ancillary deposits, we treat them as a highly specialized ecosystem requiring neutrality, transparency, and purpose-built technology.

Courts increasingly demand transparency and auditability. How do you see expectations evolving around reporting and fiduciary accountability?

Expectations are rising meaningfully. Judges and special masters now expect:

  • Real-time visibility into balances
  • Clear segregation of funds at the claimant or fee level
  • Transparent interest allocation methodologies
  • Clean audit trails across every transaction

In complex QSFs, accountability is no longer theoretical — it must be demonstrable.

We've responded by building a platform that allows structured sub-accounting at scale, defined user permissions (analyst vs. approver roles), exportable audit logs, and reporting that aligns with court oversight requirements.

The future standard will be near real-time transparency, not quarterly reconciliation. Specialized banks must offer specialized infrastructure to the settlement process — not just holding funds.

What are the most significant fraud or AML risks facing settlement administrators today, and how can institutions mitigate them without slowing distributions?

The scale and speed of modern distributions introduce new risk vectors:

  • Synthetic identity and claimant impersonation
  • Payment redirection and ACH fraud
  • Social engineering attacks targeting administrators
  • Sanctions and cross-border payment compliance risk

The key is not adding friction — but adding intelligent controls. Financial institutions must offer:

  • Multi-layer payment verification protocols
  • OFAC and sanctions screening at both onboarding and disbursement
  • Segregated user permissions and dual-approval workflows
  • Positive pay and transaction monitoring services

Technology should accelerate payments while reducing exposure. The answer is not slowing distributions — it's modernizing controls around them.

Claimants now expect faster access to funds and more flexibility in how they receive payments. How is innovation reshaping the claimant experience?

The claimant experience is evolving dramatically.

Traditional paper checks are increasingly insufficient. Claimants now expect options — ACH, prepaid cards, digital wallets, and other electronic modalities — delivered quickly and securely.

Real-time rails and digital disbursement platforms are reshaping expectations around:

  • Speed
  • Choice
  • Transparency of payment status

At the same time, the institution must provide tools so that flexibility coexists with compliance and oversight.

The institutions that succeed will be those that can offer multiple payment modalities within a controlled, audit-ready environment. That's where innovation truly adds value — not just convenience, but structured efficiency.

As litigation finance and aggregate settlements continue to grow, what role should specialized settlement banks play in reinforcing neutrality and trust?

As capital flows increase in mass tort and aggregate litigation, neutrality becomes even more critical. A specialized settlement bank must function as a stabilizing counterparty amid multi-party financial arrangements. In large aggregate settlements — especially where litigation finance is involved — clarity around control, reporting, and fee segregation becomes paramount.

Our role is not to influence outcomes, but to provide a compliant, transparent, and scalable platform that reinforces trust across all stakeholders: plaintiffs' firms, defense counsel, administrators, courts, and capital providers.

Ultimately, trust in the settlement process depends on financial infrastructure that is purpose-built for complexity — and governed by strong compliance standards.

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An LFJ Conversation with John Lopes, Head of Specialty Legal Banking, First Horizon

John Lopes is a market-leading bank executive and recognized authority in financial solutions for the plaintiff-side legal industry. As Senior Managing Director and Head of Specialized Legal Banking at First Horizon Bank, he leads a national platform focused on delivering capital, deposit, and technology solutions to contingency-based law firms, mass tort practices, claims administrators, and Qualified Settlement Funds (QSFs).

John began his career over 20 years ago advising AM Law firms, building a strong foundation in traditional legal banking and developing deep expertise in the operational and financial dynamics of large defense-side practices. He later held leadership roles at institutions including Citibank, Wells Fargo, and Western Alliance Bank, where he managed significant portfolios, built high-performing teams, and executed strategic growth initiatives across the legal vertical.

Over a decade ago, John identified a critical gap in the market and shifted his focus to the plaintiff side of the bar—where firms face unique challenges related to contingent revenue, cash flow volatility, and complex settlement structures. Since then, he has become a trusted advisor to many of the nation's leading plaintiff law firms and ecosystem partners, structuring sophisticated credit facilities, supporting billions of dollars in settlement flows, and delivering innovative banking solutions across the full lifecycle of litigation.

John is known for his ability to bridge capital, technology, and legal strategy—partnering with law firms, claims administrators, and litigation finance providers to drive growth, enhance liquidity, and create operational efficiency at scale. Through his leadership, he continues to position First Horizon as a premier banking partner to the plaintiff bar, bringing institutional-grade capabilities to a rapidly evolving segment of the legal industry.

He holds a background in financial markets from Yale University and has continued to build on that foundation through executive education with the Yale School of Management.

Below is our LFJ Conversation with John Lopes:

What gaps in the settlement and mass tort landscape led you to build a dedicated Settlement Services platform?

Historically, most banks approached settlement accounts as transactional escrow relationships rather than as a specialized vertical requiring tailored infrastructure. As mass tort and class action settlements have grown in size and complexity, that model became insufficient.

We saw several structural gaps:

  • Lack of dedicated infrastructure for high-volume sub-accounting and audit transparency
  • Limited understanding of QSF governance, fiduciary responsibilities, and multi-party oversight
  • Manual disbursement processes that created inefficiencies and risk
  • Inflexible credit solutions for contingency firms managing large case inventories

We built our Specialty Legal Banking group to address those gaps holistically — combining dedicated settlement banking, digital sub-accounting, modern disbursement capabilities, and tailored financing solutions under one coordinated platform.

Rather than treating settlements as ancillary deposits, we treat them as a highly specialized ecosystem requiring neutrality, transparency, and purpose-built technology.

Courts increasingly demand transparency and auditability. How do you see expectations evolving around reporting and fiduciary accountability?

Expectations are rising meaningfully. Judges and special masters now expect:

  • Real-time visibility into balances
  • Clear segregation of funds at the claimant or fee level
  • Transparent interest allocation methodologies
  • Clean audit trails across every transaction

In complex QSFs, accountability is no longer theoretical — it must be demonstrable.

We've responded by building a platform that allows structured sub-accounting at scale, defined user permissions (analyst vs. approver roles), exportable audit logs, and reporting that aligns with court oversight requirements.

The future standard will be near real-time transparency, not quarterly reconciliation. Specialized banks must offer specialized infrastructure to the settlement process — not just holding funds.

What are the most significant fraud or AML risks facing settlement administrators today, and how can institutions mitigate them without slowing distributions?

The scale and speed of modern distributions introduce new risk vectors:

  • Synthetic identity and claimant impersonation
  • Payment redirection and ACH fraud
  • Social engineering attacks targeting administrators
  • Sanctions and cross-border payment compliance risk

The key is not adding friction — but adding intelligent controls. Financial institutions must offer:

  • Multi-layer payment verification protocols
  • OFAC and sanctions screening at both onboarding and disbursement
  • Segregated user permissions and dual-approval workflows
  • Positive pay and transaction monitoring services

Technology should accelerate payments while reducing exposure. The answer is not slowing distributions — it's modernizing controls around them.

Claimants now expect faster access to funds and more flexibility in how they receive payments. How is innovation reshaping the claimant experience?

The claimant experience is evolving dramatically.

Traditional paper checks are increasingly insufficient. Claimants now expect options — ACH, prepaid cards, digital wallets, and other electronic modalities — delivered quickly and securely.

Real-time rails and digital disbursement platforms are reshaping expectations around:

  • Speed
  • Choice
  • Transparency of payment status

At the same time, the institution must provide tools so that flexibility coexists with compliance and oversight.

The institutions that succeed will be those that can offer multiple payment modalities within a controlled, audit-ready environment. That's where innovation truly adds value — not just convenience, but structured efficiency.

As litigation finance and aggregate settlements continue to grow, what role should specialized settlement banks play in reinforcing neutrality and trust?

As capital flows increase in mass tort and aggregate litigation, neutrality becomes even more critical. A specialized settlement bank must function as a stabilizing counterparty amid multi-party financial arrangements. In large aggregate settlements — especially where litigation finance is involved — clarity around control, reporting, and fee segregation becomes paramount.

Our role is not to influence outcomes, but to provide a compliant, transparent, and scalable platform that reinforces trust across all stakeholders: plaintiffs' firms, defense counsel, administrators, courts, and capital providers.

Ultimately, trust in the settlement process depends on financial infrastructure that is purpose-built for complexity — and governed by strong compliance standards.